Curse

We Dont Accept · Oct 10, 2008, 10:46 AM // 10:46

War
[Magehunter's Smash][crushing blow][hammer bash][flail][enraging charge][grasping earth][distracting strike][resurrection signet]

Ranger
[Sloth Hunter's Shot][distracting shot][savage shot][read the wind][purge signet][Expert's Dexterity][lightning reflexes][resurrection signet]
Read wind up = vampiric hornbow otherwise vampiric recurve

Necro
[pain of disenchantment][Faintheartedness][foul feast][plague sending][rip enchantment][defile defenses][shield of force][resurrection signet]

Monk
[Word of healing][guardian][vigorous spirit][patient spirit][purge signet][signet of rejuvenation][holy veil][shield of force]
id kick sheild force for weapon warding id bring dualshot and maybe pindown and lol hornbow? use recuve even tho u said use it id use it more and zealous bow?+sundering?

PyrAnkh · Oct 10, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08

hornbow on a pew pew ranger makes perfect sense. I use a flatbow but hornbows are more damage.

Chaos Rofl Copter · Oct 10, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

flatbow imo.

Hundbert · Oct 26, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

Depends what you prefer.

For higher dps over time = flatbow
For higher dmg on spike = hornbow

Mourne · Nov 03, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hundbert

Depends what you prefer.

For higher dps over time = flatbow
For higher dmg on spike = hornbow

Not really what you "prefer" since you should be using both. Hornbow is obviously better on spikes and flatbow/shortbow is better for when you aren't using Sloth's.

And I still don't know about that ranger bar that was terribly quoted at the top of this page. Not having Debilitating just seems...bleh.

Foe · Nov 04, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Rangers are such beasts atm its almost win win when it comes to skill selection. The good teams will attempt to punish you if your without lightning. Still, the dmg out put is crazy and there are just so many strong options for that bar. In a close match even the best of monks are gonna catch a -11 debil on a cast set at some point. Add rez and hex control ffs.

Rangers have always dominated ta in one form or another going back to proph trappers. Wish i was good enough to play one competitively

I wonder, if ff was nerfed would we all go back to poison? One would think so but theres an inherent fun factor that comes with 321'n pewpew bars at deep wounds. The chessmatch between two good rangers attempting to snag each others apply really gave the matches more depth in the "ol days". Running draw on your monk or support character used to be brutal on nrg. Made for faster and more interesting matches in my opinion.

Then again, spirit bond is back so that makes monking more enjoyable.

If they nerf ED this coming month and ff is untouched it will really blow as alot of people are not *gasp* running ff on their necs now. Meh, we can hope for the best and expect the worst as usual.

steel singer · Nov 04, 2008, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Ehm, Foe wtf are you talking about?
Nobody in TA runs ED rangers, well maybe 5% of the people :/
And spirit bond in TA? why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO would you even use that?

dark_zero_mousy · Nov 04, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59

This looks really good, it's surely fun to play *steals build* :3

Erm... But I think I would play it with WoD, this would be more effectiv.
And I don't like Purge Signet. Immagine, you have 3 hexes on you (and that isn't that extraordinary)... -30 Energy. And it has 2 secs castingtime (what is really short *caugh* ) and 20 secs cooldown. Even whit Low Set it isn't that bash skill.
And I'm not a friend of Shield of Force. Well, it's not realistic, that someone's gonna take this down. But with all this Hammer wars you may be glad to have Shield Bash while laying on the ground.

Btw Glyph of lesser Energy is just stoopid on Nec.

Foe · Nov 04, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Originally Posted by steel singer

Ehm, Foe wtf are you talking about?
Nobody in TA runs ED rangers, well maybe 5% of the people :/

less than 5%

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel singer

And spirit bond in TA? why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO would you even use that?

Because its fun and that 1% are on vent knocking down targets and sb is an effective counter. Those are the teams that worry me, not scrubs running rao or hex spam. SB is a great skill if you make proper use of it. If your balanced group is running apply and a hammer war i wouldnt suggest it as its slow and energy would become an issue.

Put down that r/p m/e n/e m/w get on vent and try warriors endurance and ED. It pumps!

Also, calm down.

Cammy · Nov 04, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Foe

warriors endurance and ED. It pumps!

QFT zzzzzzzzz

Foe · Nov 04, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Cammy! its what you Pat, Angra and Kisses finally ran after getting rolled by my ra team what must have been 7 times... ED and WE, thats what your team ran to finally win.

I did like the Dom mes Pat ran in place of the necro, i would be curious as to how it faired vs a stronger team team.

Anyway, its a fact i am the worlds worst ranger, obviously the template is strong.

These forums dont revolve around skills and build discussion anymore perma pce out.

O B A M A 0 8

Cammy · Nov 04, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foe

Cammy! its what you Pat, Angra and Kisses finally ran after getting rolled by my ra team what must have been 7 times... ED and WE, thats what your team ran to finally win.

I did like the Dom mes Pat ran in place of the necro, i would be curious as to how it faired vs a stronger team team.

Anyway, its a fact i am the worlds worst ranger, obviously the template is strong.

These forums dont revolve around skills and build discussion anymore perma pce out.

O B A M A 0 8

That was insanely good for an RA team. Or my previous team was just insanely bad. Probably both.

We did quite well against the other teams playing last night (a bad hexway, bad balanced, and like 3 different teams running 2-3 wounding strikers + monks). The only real threats against the build are good hexway that can land hexes through the ED Ranger and Dom Mes' interrupts and a magebane that can nail read the wind through lightning reflexes and Dom hexes through distortion.

Assuming their Mo/W fortresses don't explode in 2 seconds, which is literally what happens with a WE and ED.

urania · Nov 05, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_zero_mousy

This looks really good, it's surely fun to play *steals build* :3

Erm... But I think I would play it with WoD, this would be more effectiv.
And I don't like Purge Signet. Immagine, you have 3 hexes on you (and that isn't that extraordinary)... -30 Energy. And it has 2 secs castingtime (what is really short *caugh* ) and 20 secs cooldown. Even whit Low Set it isn't that bash skill.
And I'm not a friend of Shield of Force. Well, it's not realistic, that someone's gonna take this down. But with all this Hammer wars you may be glad to have Shield Bash while laying on the ground.

Btw Glyph of lesser Energy is just stoopid on Nec.

first of all...u use purge on ur low set that has 24 energy (if its a -5 weapon&-5 artifact), so u wont be paying any energy for it most of the time.
second off, get kded in a staff/wand set or have no energy in shield set and shield bash becomes far less appealing. in the former case, nothign else but a stance will save u.
3rd off, if u have a problem with purge sig's cast time, dont forget that the pew pew ranger has read the wind - a 2 sec activation too.

and yeah, pew pew+hammer are nasty with wail necros..for obvious reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foe

less than 5%

Because its fun and that 1% are on vent knocking down targets and sb is an effective counter. Those are the teams that worry me, not scrubs running rao or hex spam. SB is a great skill if you make proper use of it. If your balanced group is running apply and a hammer war i wouldnt suggest it as its slow and energy would become an issue.

Put down that r/p m/e n/e m/w get on vent and try warriors endurance and ED. It pumps!

Also, calm down.

just so u know - on spikes u will be having fun under wail of doom, so i doubt ur spirit bond will save anyone. ofc, ur veils will get rended before the actual spike. and even if they dont get, u still need a second to click on the maintained veil and spirit bond the (possibly already dead) target then.

Tushi · Nov 05, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Me and my friends played a game vs kmd and sup. They were bead. Their necro kept WoDing me without removing holy weil so it was easy to survive.
We had
1: w/e devastating with grasping earth
1: w/e shock axe
1: mo/r melandrus, draw condition and support for frontline
1: mo/w fortress monk
We broke 1 min till the end. Their monk and war had like 1 hp once.All glad 1 or 2. I was monking after about 2 months of taking break from gw, with really old monk build.

After we lost they started flaming us BUHUHU 2 monks haha you fail. And our monk was pretty much like their necro.

dark_zero_mousy · Nov 05, 2008, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tushi

1: w/e devastating with grasping earth
1: w/e shock axe
1: mo/r melandrus, draw condition and support for frontline
1: mo/w fortress monk
We broke 1 min till the end. Their monk and war had like 1 hp once.All glad 1 or 2. I was monking after about 2 months of taking break from gw, with really old monk build.

After we lost they started flaming us BUHUHU 2 monks haha you fail. And our monk was pretty much like their necro.

Perhaps because Melee-Way is... well, not lame but... not the fine way.

@ urania: hrm yeah. I would still prefer a stance to a ench. But monk is not my favorite class, so I should just shut up ^^

Tushi · Nov 05, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by dark_zero_mousy

Perhaps because Melee-Way is... well, not lame but... not the fine way.

@ urania: hrm yeah. I would still prefer a stance to a ench. But monk is not my favorite class, so I should just shut up ^^

Em? Instead of op ranger spamming debil shot in your face you have another war.
And i always make jokes about people adding way. Lets go internationalway, districway, balanceway, rainboway, euroway?. Wtf do you have to add way to every build?
I WAY was because will avenge you acctualy ends with WAY

Teh Jace · Nov 05, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Obviously this build is outdated.
The monk template is inferior to the mindless fortress monk one. Some ppl want more challenge or are just sentimental though

urania · Nov 06, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tushi

Me and my friends played a game vs kmd and sup. They were bead. Their necro kept WoDing me without removing holy weil so it was easy to survive.
We had
1: w/e devastating with grasping earth
1: w/e shock axe
1: mo/r melandrus, draw condition and support for frontline
1: mo/w fortress monk
We broke 1 min till the end. Their monk and war had like 1 hp once.All glad 1 or 2. I was monking after about 2 months of taking break from gw, with really old monk build.

After we lost they started flaming us BUHUHU 2 monks haha you fail. And our monk was pretty much like their necro.

let's all bow to the gods of TA, the great Tushi and his pals.

Teh Jace · Nov 06, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by urania

let's all bow to the gods of TA, the great Tushi and his pals.

Too bad these so called top guilds have been using TA as their lame sandbox for ages... with few exceptions ofc.

urania · Nov 07, 2008, 09:19 AM // 09:19

pretty much - especially guilds like NOW (hexway with a mantra of resolve sig of midnight mes, joy) and sometimes sup with dual monk+hammer and a pew pew ranger (usually they run balanced though).